For Mark, Steve, Joe, Helmut, Victor, and others who long ago asked for comment on basically along the lines of Mark's letter from England) below:
Regarding "SPANKING A TEENAGE BOY" (previously posted on MMSA Stories:) with apologies to the above and others who have written on this topic for not responding to your earlier notes, I'm happy to share my experience, for what it's worth. If you guys reading out there enjoy replies like this, let me know.
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Dear Cal,
"May I say how much I enjoyed reading your advice on how to spank a teenage boy. It is very much in the style I still use to discipline my own son Steven, aged 17+, when he is get out of sorts and messes up (which is frequently)."
Good, glad to hear that! The boys I write about are all real and those postings are non-fiction. Bin lives down the street with my lady friend and is just 15. Mea is 25 and lives here. Chris is 21 and lives in Washington, D. C. where he's in college (living at home and in close touch, as is Mel, his father). Larry's in grad school in NYC (my legally adopted son). Paolo's close to 30 and, yes, still in an adult education program in Sao Paulo. Rual, Paolo's younger brother, will arrive soon for the Holidays though he's in an international school outside Madrid near Alejandro (he claims he'd like to return here, but we'll have to see) - he's 16. Zach, 19, works on a project in China. Mea and Paolo are gay; the others are straight (though Zach's still "up in the air about himself"). All are still spanked, jeans and briefs way down, if not forced to take them completely off (!), and bare bottom over my knees whenever the occasion calls for it. It works! All are doing exceptionally well, including with grades, etc. I'm sure if you have continued to discipline Steven (17 or even older), you'll get the soli and good results you focus him on too.
"Until he was about 14, I was also able to employ enforced 'short-trousering' correction too. Steven especially hated being made to wear his brief, grey tight-fitting school shorts as the real punishment was the ribbing he got off his mates. After school, being sent out to 'play' in a pair of cut-off denim bib-overalls was an equally effective method of achieving a suitable level of contrition and humility."
Yes, that works and works well, I suppose in England, but if his mates know he's been spanked or even just subject to a spanking, at least in America, that it works even better.
"Today's lax society with its muddled ideas about parenting prevents me from normally sending him out of the house in these garments, but I've retained both for 'internal' punishment use. (Though a hot day can still be a short all day in the garden, with a hot bottom underneath!) Steven is only allowed to wear white y-front underwear, and obviously in his mind this type of design is forever linked in his mind with over-the-knee pants-down juvenile correction (as it should be)."
Basically it is the same here, though I also employ just a simple white jock or just plain white cotton briefs. Combined with a nice red bottom showing even just a little from under those briefs, say, it's very effective. Zach and Bin seem to favor the briefest of white bikini briefs, but none like when it's punishment time and those briefs come down. Larry and Chris in America always wear white hugging Calvin's. Seems Americans are a bit different?
"In the UK we have to use the shoe-mender (cobbler) to supply a good quality strap, saddlers being confined to rural areas. I totally agree with taking a boy along so that the strap-manufacturer can "get the measure of him". Indeed, I would suggest (by pre-arrangement) for the lad to be taken into a back room and being ordered to drop his trousers and pants. After presenting his bare bottom, the maker will certainly be able to provide an item correctly tailored for your requirements."
I agree with you when your intension is to make a psychological impact on the boy as you're getting a strap prepared for him. We have a couple of straps here. One I had made when I lived in de Nederland and it is especially well flexible enough for use with the boy over my knees. It was "hand measured" for Paolo by that Dutch cobbler, up near Hoorn, who took great care to insure it would cup Paolo's bare buns nicely. It does and it only takes one or two swats before Paolo's crying. It was a good experience for Paolo to have it made and the Dutchman was certainly in favor! When it was done, Paolo, who's older remember, got his first taste of it across my own knee with the cobbler watching. Then the cobbler wanted to try it himself and ultimate did. Super evening with that shop closed and locked tightly for the night. It still cups and swats his bare bottom exceptionally well! Though it's basically reserved for Paolo, I have used it on Larry who also responds very well to it. Here the other guys refer to it as "Paolo's strap" and when I ask them to get it, they respond in horror. It does not "cut" the boy's bare ass, but it does leave the boy extremely red, sore, and well nicely well disciplined, especially as the boy's required to keep his thighs apart and no clenching of their buns. Still when I'm forced to use it, I also finish up with my hand to even things out and make sure the boy's well cared for..
"Of course the strap should only be used on a young man's BARE bottom. I may start a punishment session on underpants, but only to give Steven the false hope that he might be spared the indignity of having to go "all the way". It is immeasurably satisfying to hear him whimper after I have paused spanking his underpant-clad backside, and he wonders if his ordeal is at an end, only for him to then feel my hand grip the waistband of his briefs before they begin the long journey down his legs to join his trousers around his ankles. Deep in his heart he knows that a spanking will always be concluded on his naughty bare bottom."
You are right and it is the same here. The only exception is if a boy needs swatted in someplace where I can't bare his bottom, but then he knows it will happen as soon as we return home.
"His T-shirt too should be pulled well clear. If it's up around his shoulders, and his trousers and underwear are residing at the extreme other end, he'll feel almost totally naked whilst across your lap and under your gaze!"
Agree for sure! And the beauty of the boy at that point is well worth noting, especially just before you give him one yet he knows it's coming. Too many don't take time enough to enjoy this moment, at least from my point of view.
"At the end of a long session over may knee, he will have to stand in front me, bare-bottomed and red-faced, cheeks either tear-streaked or crimson, then say the words: "Thank you daddy for taking my pants down and spanking my naughty bare bottom. I know I deserved my spanking for being a bad boy"."
Very similar here too, though we don't use a particular phrase and I spend a lot of time holding the boy at that point. Steven is luck to have you and to have a clear ritual. I trust you are still spanking him?
"Then it's either half-hour's "corner time" hands-on-head while I watch, or into the tub for a supervised bath prior to early bed. And the hairbrush will be on stand-by in the bathroom in case Steven has any ideas of resisting his dad's actions with soap and sponge!"
What can I say? I don't do that here but I know many men in Europe who do and write passionately about the pleasure and effectiveness in spanking a boy (hand or hairbrush or whatever) when he's pulled out of the tub or shower and still wet and soapy!
"If a few more father's were prepared to pull down their boy's underpants for spanking, whatever their age, there would be far less trouble in the world today. My own dad spanked me until I was 18, and bare up until 16."
For sure! Paolo's staying with a retired German friend who uses a slipper on his regularly. I mostly use my hand or that strap, but there is no question it works and I've never had a boy move out or away. We don't do much in terms of rituals our here, though I do have a tendency to spend more time with a boy on a weekend when work slows down. Sometimes I'll hold off spanking a boy until a Saturday, but normally, they get it when they need it. Bin gets it the most these days, but that's as you would expect given his age. His family keeps reminding him he's fortunate and there's no question he's grateful and very much happy around here, though not when he's due for a trip over the knees. But he has a beautifully, well formed bare bottom and he's a real joy to spank when that time comes. It's rare if he gets through couple of weeks without one. Over here, if you want my help and want to stay, well, this is the way it is going to be. If you object, kindly leave. No one has ever left. And some who have ultimately married are still in touch. I still know them all and those from years ago have all done exceptionally well in Life and Careers. It's great to have them in the more extended family.
Mark / Cal